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		<title>By: SiegfriedGoodfellow</title>
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		<description>&quot;The Gods are not competing against one another. They have cohesion far greater than any human can understand. The Gods are a united front. They are united in ways beyond our comprehension.&quot;

I couldn&#039;t agree more! This reminds me of a story Saxo Grammaticus told in Book One of his &quot;History of the Danes&quot;, where Odin leaves Asgard for a long time, and an imposter (theorized by some to be Loki) takes over and demands that instead of offering sacrifice to the gods together, each of them must receive separate worship if men are not to call down their wrath upon them. When Odin returns, he puts an end to all this nonsense, which may be the cause of him saying in Havamal 145, &quot;Betra er óbeðit en sé ofblótit,&quot; &quot;Better to not pray at all than to over-sacrifice&quot;.

Such a story must have been told amongst the elder folk to remind people that the gods are a united front and do not have to be separately appeased with great and expensive sacrifices, nor can they be turned one against the other, but as you say, are a united front, not in competition with each other.

And I agree as well that the Gods are not great big people, but are spoken of allegorically. Tacitus gives us a hint of native Germanic theology when he says in Germania 9 that &quot;Ceterum nec cohibere parietibus deos neque in ullam humani oris speciem adsimulare ex magnitudine caelestium arbitrantur&quot;, &quot;Moreover, they do not believe in confining the gods within walls nor representing them in any human form or kind, out of the majesty of the heavenly gods.&quot; He goes on to say that they consecrated groves where they called upon the names of the Gods whose presence was felt there. The stories and myths, then, were to help people visualize, to bring things down to an understandable human level, and to transmit important messages in narrative form, but obviously, as Tacitus makes clear, when it came down to actual worship, they knew the gods did not exist in human form, but had an almost inexpressible majesty.</description>
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<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more! This reminds me of a story Saxo Grammaticus told in Book One of his &#8220;History of the Danes&#8221;, where Odin leaves Asgard for a long time, and an imposter (theorized by some to be Loki) takes over and demands that instead of offering sacrifice to the gods together, each of them must receive separate worship if men are not to call down their wrath upon them. When Odin returns, he puts an end to all this nonsense, which may be the cause of him saying in Havamal 145, &#8220;Betra er óbeðit en sé ofblótit,&#8221; &#8220;Better to not pray at all than to over-sacrifice&#8221;.</p>
<p>Such a story must have been told amongst the elder folk to remind people that the gods are a united front and do not have to be separately appeased with great and expensive sacrifices, nor can they be turned one against the other, but as you say, are a united front, not in competition with each other.</p>
<p>And I agree as well that the Gods are not great big people, but are spoken of allegorically. Tacitus gives us a hint of native Germanic theology when he says in Germania 9 that &#8220;Ceterum nec cohibere parietibus deos neque in ullam humani oris speciem adsimulare ex magnitudine caelestium arbitrantur&#8221;, &#8220;Moreover, they do not believe in confining the gods within walls nor representing them in any human form or kind, out of the majesty of the heavenly gods.&#8221; He goes on to say that they consecrated groves where they called upon the names of the Gods whose presence was felt there. The stories and myths, then, were to help people visualize, to bring things down to an understandable human level, and to transmit important messages in narrative form, but obviously, as Tacitus makes clear, when it came down to actual worship, they knew the gods did not exist in human form, but had an almost inexpressible majesty.</p>
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